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metal dave photo by larry stern(A Funny Thing Happened On) The Road To Rock Stardom - Metal Dave
by Tammy Moore

Imagine lying on your couch catching a few zzz’s in the early afternoon when the phone rings. You don’t feel like getting up to answer it so you let the machine get it. Half dazed, you hear a voice, “Hey, hey, Dave? David Lee Roth here! Guess I missed ya. Well, I’ll try back later there, Dave!” Oh, that was just Diamond Dave. He wasn’t supposed to call for four more hours, but he’s in one time zone and you’re in another. He’ll call back. Or maybe the phone rings again, and this time it’s Nikki Sixx, who doubles as one of your own personal idols. You start to interview him, and the maintenance man shows up to fix your garbage disposal. You want to rap with Sixx, of course, but you don’t want to be bothered with all that clanging coming from your kitchen. So you take the phone in the closet and chat with the icon. Imagine Bret Michaels insisting that you join the band on stage to sing “Rock And Roll All Nite” with him to a sold-out crowd just so you can really understand why rock stars choose this profession. You know…see what it feels like to perform in front of thousands of people.

Sound like a fantasy life? Welcome to the real world of Dave Glessner, freelance music journalist for Metal Edge magazine and known affectionately throughout the Austin music community as “Metal” Dave. AC/DC, the Ramones, Marilyn Manson, David Bowie, Eddie Van Halen, Slash, the Doors, Aerosmith, Metallica, Mötley Crüe, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Scorpions, the Misfits, Anthrax, Black Sabbath, Slayer, Megadeth, Rob Zombie, Buck Cherry, Queensryche, Foo Fighters, Pantera, Green Day and Def Leppard are some of the names Glessner can list as artists he has interviewed. His home is a testament to that fact and is brimming with photos and memorabilia from a life that screams, “I came to live out loud!” Take a look at his rock and roll library, and you’ll find must-reads like Mötley Crüe’s The Dirt: Confessions off the World’s Most Notorious Rock Band and Legs McNeil’s Please Kill Me. Peruse the walls of his study, and among other things, you’ll find a letter from the late Cliff Burton’s mom telling Glessner how his kind words help her and her husband cope with her son’s death.

Fittingly, he was born in San Antonio, Texas, the “heavy metal capital of the world,” to Don and Joyce, but like most military brats, Glessner moved around a lot as a kid. He envisioned himself growing up to be a football player, and then his parents moved to England in the late ‘70s, where he started entertaining himself by watching a television show called “Top Of The Pops.” It was here that he saw the likes of Molly Hatchet, Thin Lizzy and Queen and really got into music. Then a friend turned him on to Kiss’ “Destroyer” and it was “goodbye, NFL…hello, rock and roll.”

When the family moved back to San Antonio, Glessner was heavily influenced by 99.5 KISS radio’s Joe “The Godfather” Anthony, a legendary DJ who was the first to bring bands like Rush, Killer Dwarfs and Triumph to the air. Then he saw his first live band when the Plasmatics opened for KISS on the “Creatures of the Night” tour. Wendy O. came out in duct tape and a mohawk, and Glessner was hooked. Music became everything to him, and he’s never looked back. He hasn’t let very much get in his way either. He once ran away from home because his parents wouldn’t let him go to a Twisted Sister concert.

metal dave photo by larry sternBut he got over it eventually and came back until he left again for college at Southwest Texas State University. He knew exactly what he wanted to do and obtained a degree in journalism. While there, he worked as campus newspaper cartoonist before moving into music reviews and eventually spending a summer as Entertainment Editor. He also deejayed on the campus radio station and somehow managed to work as a publicist and graphics designer for several San Antonio metal bands. His first interview for The Daily Star was with Jake E. Lee. Glessner traded Lee a cigarette in exchange for the interview after hanging around by the back door and waiting for Lee to come offstage. That was back in the days before he knew that publicists handled such things. Before graduating college, he had landed interviews with the Ramones, L7, Glenn Danzig and Dee Snider.

He went on to be published in the San Antonio Express-News, Texas Music Magazine, Houston Press, KNAC.com, and Maximum RockNRoll. Ultimately, after banging on the door at Metal Edge time after time and getting nowhere, he turned to his friend for help, Ramones publicist Ida Langsam. As fate would have it, Langsams’ intern was the girlfriend of Metal Edge Executive Editor Paul Gargano, and through that connection he was able to talk to a girl at Metal Edge in charge of record reviews. Eventually, he was able to talk to Gargano himself and convince the magazine honcho to let him review Mötley Crüe on the “Maximum Rock and Roll Tour.” Metal Edge wanted 1000 words, and when Glessner turned in the review, Gargano’s response was that he guessed he better find some pictures to go with the review because it was very good. And that was his foot in the door.

He cites the greatest day of his life as the day this past October when he married Kim. The second greatest day was the day he met the Ramones in person backstage at Palmer Auditorium. He got to meet the whole band, interview Marky, have dinner with the crew and watch soundcheck. As an independent writer he could live anywhere, but he chooses Austin as a home base for one reason: the music. “This place rocks,” he said, “If you’re playing, that’s badass. If you’re not, you’re drawing posters, you’re booking, you’re making up flyers, you’re doing t-shirts…everybody that I hang out with is somehow tied to their love of music. I live and breathe fucking music, and I just love that there are so many other people in this city that are the same way.”

Normally, this column is geared towards helping to educate artists about this business of music. But, thanks to Rank and Revue, I find myself keeping company these days with people who, like myself, are aspiring writers-for-hire, and for the sake of all of us, I just couldn’t resist this opportunity to pick Metal Dave’s brain about how to succeed in the art of music journalism. Read on anyway, music makers. It never hurts to know what the people who work for you are supposed to be doing or to know what could impress a journalist that might be interviewing you one day.

R&R: When you worked as a publicist what did that involve?
MD: I wrote press releases announcing gigs and inviting music writers to come out and review shows. Ultimately, the goal was to keep the bands’ names in the local press and make sure their gigs and album releases were announced in the newspaper. I wasn’t getting paid. I was paying my dues and trying to make contacts and gain experience. It was a fun time and very educational and enlightening. I learned how to write press releases, make contact with the appropriate media and reap the rewards of seeing the results in print at a large daily newspaper. It was my way of being a player in the scene without being a musician.

R&R: What do you do to prepare for your interviews?
MD: I’m usually very familiar with my subjects to begin with, but to keep the news angle timely, I may need to brush up on the latest album, tour, and other happenings. I contact the band’s publicist and have them send all the latest materials including band bio, latest CD, press releases and recent press clippings. I listen to the music, formulate questions, and then sequence them so the conversation flows. Being informed is the best way to get the most out of a subject. People love to talk about themselves and especially enjoy when your questions reflect a genuine interest. That’s how you get them to open up and tell you things that they may not tell a reporter who is just going through the motions to complete an assignment and beat deadline.

R&R: What is a good writing? Why do you think your pieces sell?
MD: Once you prove that you’re capable, legitimate, and reliable…you’re good. A lot of people can’t do all of those things. Everybody wants to do this, but either they aren’t good at any of them, or they’re lacking in one of them. But if you can do all three then they’ll run with you. People don’t understand that this takes time and effort to do it well. You’ve got to be knowledgeable about your subject, have a good command of the language, be reliable, and able to work independently. NEVER EVER MISS A DEADLINE. For me, there’s nothing more aggravating than reading a story and finding a typo. There’s just no fucking excuse for it. If you’re going to be taken seriously and if you’re going to be considered a credible source, your facts better be fucking straight, and your names better be fucking spelled right. I read articles written in Austin, Texas where they spell Stevie Ray Vaughan wrong! That is inexcusable. If you’re gonna establish yourself as that, and you’re going to have to if you’re going to do this, you’ve got to have your I’s dotted and your T’s crossed. You can’t fuck up Mick Jagger’s name if you’re going to be taken seriously.

R&R: Now how much of that is your responsibility, and how much is your editor’s responsibility?
MD: It better be ALL your responsibility as a writer. Because if it’s an editor’s responsibility to clean up something that obvious, then you aren’t going to get hired for the next job. If I’m the editor for Rolling Stone and you misspell Stevie Ray Vaughan’s name, then I’m not calling you back for the next assignment. The best thing you can do for an editor is let them go to sleep at night, peacefully, and know that you’re reliable, accurate, got your facts straight, and your shit was on time!

R&R: What is a realistic pay scale for writers who are trying to sell their work?
MD: The money is in the feature interviews. You start off doing record reviews and that is $40 or $50. It varies wildly. I get paid by the length of the article in terms of how many words, who this person is, how famous they are, and how the publication wants to play it. If it’s a cover story, it’s worth more than a “where are they now” kind of thing. But I love nothing more than to know that the phone’s gonna ring, and it’s fucking Peter Criss! That just rocks my fucking world. If the phone rings and it’s Gene Simmons or whoever, I don’t give a fuck about the money…I just can’t wait to cackle with these motherfuckers on the phone…It’s all about the music first!

R&R: Knowing all that you know now, what is the best piece of advice you could give to aspiring artists in this crazy pursuit of success in music?
MD: More than anything, if you want to be taken as a credible person, just be honest. If you want to be respected for what you do and who you are, just tell the fucking truth no matter who it hurts!

It was a theme he stressed repeatedly throughout our interview. As far as Glessner is concerned, the artists he has interviewed all fall into categories. There are the guys he is proud to have interviewed just because of their legendary status in rock history…Bowie, Van Halen, Manzarek and Simmons, for example. And then there are the guys that Glessner loves because they were truly great interviews like Lemmy and Sixx. What made those interviews great? These artists “don’t give a fuck if their publicist, their wives, or their record label shits a brick when they read this article,” and they are poster children for rock and roll. It seems that some artists might try to dance around a subject or aim for political correctness in their answers. Forget that. Give Glessner twenty minutes with someone like Zakk Wylde, and he’ll give you some dirt on Ozzy that would expose Sharon Osbourne for the spin doctor that she is like he did in Metal Edge a year ago.

Interviews like that keep the engaging smile on this rock journalists’ face. To know Glessner is to like him. He is humble, he laughs a lot, and he looks you directly in the eye when he talks to you. He was so forthcoming with information on how to succeed at doing what he does that I almost felt guilty about sharing the information with my readers. He gave us a goldmine of insight. But then I shrugged it off. For one thing, “Metal” Dave Glessner wants to see other people thrive. This is who he is. And, after all, he knew he was talking to a reporter…and that is just one of the lessons I learned from him! Keep reaching for the dream.



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